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on the flip side, it makes you fi about if you want to go for a life extension sort of treatment at the end of life. do they want to live another six months? >> thanks for the time. i'm dylan ratigan. "hardball" is up right now. new blood. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. leading off tonight, shakeup. mayor daley of chicago started the chain reaction. he's not running for re-election. rahm e emanuel wants his job. the announcement comes as president obama faces the worst poll numbers ever. this is the moment when a tough
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hardball manager makes his move. this is the time when the general manager, in this case the president, does what they need to be done, the team's losing. he can still salvage the season. shakeup time, big time. i recommend he get hillary clinton and his team of defense to toughen up the security and move middle east talks to a higher level. he then brings in a real heavyweight to serve as the government's chief operating officer. how about new york mayor michael bloomberg? how about colin powell? why not make his move now? we'll look at new poll numbers and hear tough talk about the president. we'll also talk to one man who saw the democrat's huge 1994 defeat coming before others did and says it doesn't have to have happen this time if president obama steals a page from the playbook. that's reagan. plus two weeks ago pastor terry jones of florida came on
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hardball to defend his plans to burn korans on the anniversary of 9/11. today general petraeus saying his koran burning party could threat our overall effort in the middle east. jones says he's still going for it. more on that later tonight on hardball. plus a yup group of liberal organizations has greetat creat a website. right wingers don't like. awe start with the shakeup. chuck todd is nbc news political director and john hulman for new york magazine. facts have come on the table. one t mayor of chicago is not running again. fact, mayor emanuel said he wants the job. fact, the poll numbers coming in from nbc, and chuck has got them, are terrifically bad.
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time for a shakeup. your thoughts, chuck? >> here's what we can tell you. rahm emanuel put out a statement talking about and praising mayor daley. if he wanted to stop speculation about him running for mayor of chicago, we would have the statement. the fact is we don't have the statement. i talk to folks very familiar with how mayor races in city politics work. they say even though the filing deadline for mayor is not until december, that realistically rahm has a week or two to make a decision and make one publicly. if he doesn't, he risks seeing others who may have similar plays and constituency groups, the business community in chicago. things like that. filling the void. now the timing on that isn't ideal for the white house. you talk about the shakeup. there was going to be a reorganization of some form
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around when they were going to start the re-election of the campaign. whether that's david axelrod moving to chicago, robert gibbs, rahm emanuel. all this was in the works over the next three to six months. the fact is now what do they do if rahm leaves in the next three weeks? do they bring in someone temporarily, or do they do what you're advocating, the big change? >> what about heavyweights coming in to help this president, the bolster him. he has problems going into re-election time in a year or two. it's not working. he needs a stronger team. that's my assessment. he can't just elevate some deputies in the white house and make everybody feel better. he wouldn't do that, would he, at this point? that's what you do on like your seventh year of a presidency, you promote the deputies. doesn't he need to go outside to get somebody big like bloomberg, like colin powell, bring in hillary, secretary of defense, bolster the power of this administration before he faces defeat? or does he wait until after he
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loses? >> you're definitely going to see bigger names come in. the question is when do you do it? do you do at at the first of the year? after the election? i think it's a timing issue. or do you do it now? look, there's a problem with doing it now politically. it could look like you're throwing in the towel now in many ways, and you're already planning for the defeat and planning to figure out what's next. you might say we'll wait until after the election. i think, you're pointing out business folks. i think some odd candidates is a guy like ed whitaker. the guy stepping down as gm. somebody who is friendly with the white house, or mark warner, senator from virginia. >> let's go right now to john, your sense. can you report anything about a shakeup? these numbers are dreadful. i'm going to get to them in one minute. they are dreadful. >> i think you're right.
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a shakeup is coming. rahm is the trigger for that. i think you're right toosome something is going to happen. the pressure on the president now to do something bold in terms of his personnel is going to be very, very high. i think as important as how big the name is is the idea of getting someone from outside the inner circle. obama in both the campaign and in the white house has been one of these guys who has governed with a very tight circle of aides around him. he trusts very few people. takes advice from very few people. that worked well for him during the campaign. maybe has not worked as well for him in the white house. he needs to go to someone who will tell him unpleasant truths. someone has the stability to sa to him, listen, buddy, you have to get with the program. i'm here to tell you things you don't want to hear. >> john, good thoughts. and i agree completely about you thinking. he needs heavyweight that can't all be from chicago. that's his kind of town, not everybody's, although i love the
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place. here's the president talking about the personal of this fight. it is getting deeply personal. the republicans are going for the kill. here he is saying he's been treated like a dog. i've never heard the president saying people are treating me like a dog. is this going to work, and with who? let's listen. >> over the last two years that's meant taking on some powerful interests. some powerful interests who have been dominating the agenda in washington for a very long time. they're not always happy with me. they talk about me like a dog. that's not in my prepared remarks. but it's true. >> i don't think that would have gotten past your staff. 61% of the american people now say this country is on the wrong track. compare that to numbers back in 2006 and 1994. earlier times of change, politically. 54%, 57, never any number like
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this. chuck, this is bad news. i know you and i always talk about the wrong track number. it's basically the american people saying we are being led in the wrong direction. >> that's right. any time we have a change election, the right track, wrong track number looks the way it looks now, and the fact that this wrong track number is higher than the same point in 1994 and the same time in 2008, that just shows you it is going to be a big change election unless somehow something changes for the president and the democrats. one thing they're going to focus on that they think they can do is somehow motivate these unmotivated democratic voters who are sitting there and have no interest in this election. that's going to cost them two or three senate seats. >> i think the only happy people in america are happy because they're so angry to vote against this guy. check out the difference between likely voters, people who will vote in this election, and the
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already registered voters. 49 to 40 is how he's losing right now based on the generic ballot. 49% to 40% among people who will actually vote. it's a dead heat if everybody votes. of those who are going to vote, he gets killed by nine points. the president's job approval at 49% among registered voters 41% positive. 56% disapproval among -- john heilemann, 56% disapproval among voters this november. >> we've been talking for months about the enthusiasm gap. republican voters are much more energized, much more likely to get out and vote in the election. now as we're getting closer to election day, and as the polling is getting more granular, we're starting to see it come out in the likely registered splits. that's what you're seeing here.
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the thing that the administration in addition to obama's tough rhetoric today, they're going to put on what they think will open the eyes of some of these voters who say in the polls also that they're for the republicans, but they're against going back to george bush's policies. they want to say to them, look, this is exactly what you're going to get if the republicans come in. it's going to be worse than bush. it's going to be more extreme. >> fortunately, john, that's not what the polling is showing. 56% of americans disapprove of president obama's handling of the economy. 58% thought republicans would offer different ideas on how to jump start the economy. only 35% thought the party would return to its old bush policies. that is a staggering statement as to the success of the republican p.r. campaign, chuck. >> i disagree it's about a success in the p.r. campaign. this is twofold. you have a fed up public. they have two choices here. to go and stay with on what they believe is the same path that president obama and democrats
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offer, or to go a different path. so the voter is putting the best possible face on their vote here they tell us the bush policies were unpopular. the second most unpopular atrabt for a congressional candidate to have. it's the same thing barack obama benefitted from in 2008. well, he's going to be a moderate. liberals thought he would be the great liberal. they became sort of -- they became the hope candidate in many ways. even if they haven't seen hard evidence to prove otherwise. >> it's like an old santa claus mask that always seemed to be looking at you when you're walking by. he's with me. that guy is with me. i want that. john heilemann, do you take the same view? when voters are saying they're
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not going back to their old way, they have a new approach. less spending, less taxes the real conservative stuff, the gold. >> i think another piece of the polling in the nbc poll that talked about how when people were asked directly are you voting against president obama or voting for the republicans? more of them said they were in favor of the republicans. they were saying this is a positive affirmative vote. i think those people are fot exactly lying but lying to themselves. they're rationalizing a vote. nobody likes to vote purely in a negative way. they want to feel they're voting for something, even if they on some level don't understand what they're voting for or have rationalized the thing they're voting for is something different than what is on the table. >> like people who say they don't respond to advertising. >> that's the only thing to respond to. >> chuck, it's the only thick that works. not that it should. thank you, chuck todd and thank you john heilemann.
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coming up, there may be a way the democrats could have only a small catastrophe in november. we'll talk to one man who saw '94 coming. he wrote a memo about it to the democratic leaders ensaid be careful this is what's going to happen. they didn't all listen to him. they did have a catastrophe. this time we'll let you hear what his advice is to the president. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. the world was your atm. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 the schwab bank high yield investor checking(tm) account. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 zero atm fees. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 a great interest rate. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 no minimums. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 the biggest thing in checking since checks. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 open an account at 1-800-4schwab or schwab.com. time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze... my eyes water. but now zyrtec®, the fastest 24-hour allergy relief, comes in a liquid gel. zyrtec® liquid gels work fast, so i can love the air®.
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i stand here knowing that my story is part of the larger american story. that i owe a debt to all of those who came before me and in no other countrying on earth is my story even possible. >> wow, that was america's introduction to barack obama in 2004 in his acknowledgment that only in america was his story possible inspired us. as he battled through the 2008 primaries he retold the story, and it was electric. >> my own story tells me that in the united states of america there's never been anything false about hope, at least not if you're willing to work for it. not if you're willing to struggle for it and fight for
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it. i should not be here today. i was not born into money or status. i was born to a teenage mom in hawaii. my father left us when i was 2. but my family gave me love. they give me an education. and most of all they gave me hope. hope that in america, no dream is beyond our grasp. if we reach for it and fight for it and work for it. >> i get the same thrill up my leg all over me every time i hear the words. he's talking about my country. nobody does it better. can president obama stir us again and help his party keep power this november? jim kesley is co-president of -- gentlemen, with a little bit of sentiment, roger, try here. try. it seems to me what's thrilled
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me, andty admitted it so many times is when he talked about america. he wasn't going to say i'm going to to do this because i'm a big shot and a brain. we can do things without a lot of help from government and on our own we can do things. that's what your piece is about, isn't it? he doesn't talk like that anymor anymore. >> it's hard to talk about that. declining gdp, doubling deficit and presidential approval rating south of 40%, ronald reagan, november of 1982, he held all 54 republican senate seats. they lost a couple dozen house seats, which is basically par for the course. you have an economic environment as bad or worse as what the democrats and barack obama are facing. >> if -- >> if you have to own one thing, you have to own optimism.
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that's what president reagan was selling to the american people, a vision of success. >> was that a confidence in himself or this program? >> i think it was confidence in himself as a leader. there was doubts about reaganomics. you hitched a waggen to him. >> someone is giving him other advice. they're treating me like a dog. this whining. not whining. that's a knock. but he's talking like he's being put down. he's not being put down. he's being criticize. >> he's the president of the united states. he can't portray himself as a victim. one other thing the republicans had going for them in '94 is the democrats were fat and sassy and lazy also they had newt
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gingrich. people said, oh, here it is in writing. >> only about one-fifth of people knew about that so-called contract. let me get back to jim ice point. no one questioned barack obama's americanism when he was running as a candidate. they knew he had an exotic name, barack obama. but that was like a lot of our names, accidents of our parents or grandparents. it wasn't who we are. now the republicans have tagged him with that. he is barack hussein obama. he doesn't seem to wow us with his love of the country like he used to. that's my thought. >> i think hooegs suffering under the leaf that he has to do something for an encore. change you can believe in. change we can believe now. now where is the change? it didn't happen. people are impatient. they want to see something.
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>> why did they put up with reagan? >> reagan, as barack obama is, though in different ways, a very magnetic personable figure that people liked and trusted. barack obama, as i said, is the same. by election day he cannot improve the unemployment figures. but he can goose up the democrats. can a democrat be turned on the way a republican can? i know i can. i'm somewhere in the middle, slightly left, but i'm there. and i can get it turned on by america's anybody on the right. but i want to ask you where the democrats really want to be positive. here's reagan being positive. maybe talking to the choir. this is him in january of '92. >> don't let anybody tell you america's best days are behind her, that the american spirit
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has been vanquished. we've seen it try to often in our lives to stop believing in it now. >> can a democrat talk like that? >> yes. you talked about the tingle up your leg. >> that's what right wing fascists give me. i got a thrill. >> my apologies. >> no, it's not enough. you're reading the wrong stuff. just kidding. i can take it. >> in general it's a little harder with democrats. we are, by nature, you know, a lot of times -- we're aggrieved interests. you know. >> i met a woman the other day who is out of work, she's may age. she's been looking for a job. she says they're only hiring young good looking waitresses. i can't get a job. i need one. it's tough out there. she's a democrat. she was talking to me about her politics. what do you say to her? where is her optimism going to come from from this president? sbl we did a poll.
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do you think you're doing better economically than the average american? 71% said yes. >> what does that tell you? >> this is an optimistic success-oriented population. everybody is getting a "b" plus. but one thing reagan understood, and this is very important, when you're governing in very bad economic times, you can't sell people on your accomplishments and on the state of where things are now. you have to sell them on the destination of where you're going to take them. >> has he done that? has the president sold the route we're on? >> no, he's just started, though. he cannot tell people -- he's got to do what he did before in this one sense. >> all right. >> that as difficult as it was to elect the first black president, it's going to be this difficult to reelect a democratic congress. he's got to inspire people to do
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it. it's a low turnout election. only 40% of the electorate are going to vote, compared to 56 in the -- i'm sorry, 63 in the general. >> he can get young people, mir minorities and progressives out to vote by doing what? >> by filling them with enthusiasm and hope and the belief it can be done. if they sit around and listen to the polls, they're going to stay home. >> if you give up the game is over. thank you very much. jim kessler, good proktive writing. congressional democrats are oning far away from their crowning achievement. they're not talking in their ads at all about health care, which is astounding after all the incredible pain and effort to get that through. [ engine revving ] [ male announcer ] the u.s. government may soon require brake override technology on all new cars and trucks.
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back to "hardball." and to the sideshow. it was an instant classic. here's massachusetts congressman barney frank last august responding to a town hall question that tied health care to nazism. >> why do you continue to support a nazi policy as obama has expressly supported this policy? why are you supporting it? >> you stand there with a picture of the president defaced to look like hitler, and compare the effort to increase health care to the nazis. my answer to you is, as i said before, it is a tribute to the first amendment that this kind of vile contempt of assumptions is so freely propagated. having a conversation with you is like trying to argue with a dining room table. i have no interest in doing it. >> well, that question of rachel
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brown, is her name, is now looking to lengthen her 15 minutes of frame. she filed a challenger. frank's reaction, i regard her as an example of the price you pay for free sheep. next, in defending her state's now tough anti-illegal immigration law, governor jan brewer made a shocking claim. here she is on fox in june. >> it is a good bill. it's another tool for us to be able to use in order to get our borders under control. we cannot afford all this illegal immigration and everything that comes with it. everything from the crime to the drugs to the kidnapping and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can't feel safe in their communities. it's wrong. it's wrong. >> well, the word that jumped
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out ad you was "beheadings". her claim was challenged by medical examiners among the border who never heard of such beheadings. brewer stood her ground until this weekend. three months after she made that beheading claim, governor brewer admitted that she misspoke about the border beheadings. what, we can only guess, did she intend to be saying? next, talk about a detour. with two months to go before the midterms, where is republican party chairman michael steele? he's in guam. he arrived to do fund-raisers at an island 6,000 miles away tr the u.s. main lachbd. as goes guam, so goes michael steele. now to the night's big number. democrats this year heralded a historic victory. the passage of a sweeping health care reform bill. it was to be the party's crowning political and partisan and policy achieve.
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an accomplish. the democrats could hang their morals on for generations to come. so this political cycle, how many house democrats are running tv ads touting the passage of health care? according to politico, zero. no house democrat is standing by the party's most significant accomplishment in decades. it tells you how rough times are for the democrats. zero tv ads for obama health care. tonight's very telling big zero number. up next, a pastor in florida is still planning to burn korans on september 11th despite warnings from general david petraeus that doing so could put american troops in serious danger. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. [ whistling ]
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i'm julia boorstin with your cnbc market wrap. stocks closing lower. the dow sliding 1717 points. the nasdaq slipping 24 points. "wall street journal" article says july stress tests weren't thorough enough and some banks are holding riskier portfolios than everyone thought. adding concerns to rumors they could be required to hold higher levels of tier one capital. investors are moving back out of the sector after significant gains last week. investors are increasingly jittery about high volatility in the increasingly stable sector. a big legal battle is brewing over mark herd. he wants to join a rival as vice president. he is saying his intimate knowledge of trade secrets could give them an unfair advantage.
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that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." it puts our soldiers in jeopardy, very likely. and i think, in fact, the images from such an activity could very well be used by extremists here and around the world. >> welcome back to "hardball." that's, of course, general david petraeus out in the field warning on the effects of our troops if this pastor follows through with the burning of the koran day. he says we understand the general's concerns. we are sure that his concerns are legitimate. still, we feel it's time for america to quit apologizing for our actions and bowing to kings. wes moore served in afghanistan
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in 2005 and 2006. he's author of the "the other wes moore." and david corn writes for -- thank you for your service, captain. i mean it very much. you're a troop in the field. you're a parent. you face islamic people every day of your life, 24/7. they're around you. they can get to you if they have a feeling about this sacrilege. >> i think not only is the decision to do this misguides, but really puts our troops and also the larger mission in danger. we've been very clear not just in word but also indeed that this is not a war gins against . this is a war against extremist elements suches s as al qaeda a the taliban. these rxes are not helpful and should really be reconsidered. >> let me ask you, and i want to
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get to david corn, what happened during the talk that was really used against. tell us about the pictures where they showed american servicemen and women really abusing the bodies and the dignity of islamic prisoners. theflushing the koran down the toilet. just the rumor of it. what happened then? wes. >> i'm sorry. what ended up happening for that, and not only that, but what happened with the koran burning back in 2005 is the extremists. we knew that you could not bring them back along. but who it targeted and hurt was our ability to bring in moderates. you saw a lot of extremists groups were using it as ammunition. >> to recruit. >> to recruit. i know, for example, when iwas on the ground in afghanistan during the time of the danish cartoons, the 12 cartoons that
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went off where they're talking about what happened with islam and the prophet mohammed, it really left for a dangerous situation. >> you always hear about this. they burn my bible, they burn my religion. you're sitting in a calf fie in cairo, you hear, wait a minute, they're burning my koran over there. why doesn't the president stop this? >> people think the power has the able to stop this. it reflects not just on the idiot pastor in florida, but the u.s. government in large. in a lot of parts of the world you can't do this already you have young men in afghan, throwing rocks, demonstrating against this, it's not a big threat at the moment. >> that's almost reasonable compared to what may be coming.
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this isn't a new story for us. on august 26th i had him on. i thought it was a fair show. i tried to admit imthere may be somebody out there to try to talk him out of this. i never thought someone as distinguished as general petraeus would do it. here's what he said then. let's listen. >> do you like or respect anyone, sir? >> i guess so. president bush. >> president george w. bush. if george w. bush, the former president were to call you up and say i think this would l cause trouble in the arab or islamic world, i really think you shouldn't burn korans in public on that day, it's their hol holy day, would you do it? >> we would not change our plans. >> if president bush were to call you up and urge you not to commit this action which will be televised worldwide and could cause trouble and even death, you would continue ahead with
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your plan to do this? >> we are going to continue ahead, yes. >> well, this "we" is pretty scary. who is this we? who do we have behind him? >> well, he has a very right-wing fundamental church that believes if you support abortion, if you support homosexual rights -- >> a lot of people believe this -- >> no, but that you're going to hell and it's their job to stop the activity. they believe it's literally the religion of the devil and they have to oppose it. interesting you brought up george w. bush. i take this man at his word that nothing will dissuade him from this. but what might help is if you had figures on the right like george b. bush, like newt gingrich. >> how about franklin graham? >> if they came out and condemned this it may send out a
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message. >> captain wes moore, maybe you ought to make an appeal. why would you want to recruit enemies like this will probably do? i think. >> well, i agree. quite honestly the largest challenge is, and david touched on it, it's a really important point. that for a lot of people, particularly the thousands currently around the world now protesting this exact issue, they don't understand this idea of a first amendment right. to speak. they don't understand that the president can't just tell him not to do this, and then it can't be done. so they think by seeing these actions and when these images are transported all over the world, this is how the country feels. we have to be clear when we have men and women in harm's way fighting for us every single day, we need to do everything in our port to support them. this is not at all helpful. >> do you think for the president were to publicly condemn this, the state department has put out the word
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to pj crowley. he said it's un-american what this pastor is thinking of doing and it's religious radicalism. does that help to the muslim world? or only marginally? >> i don't think the president should get involved. he will echo what the general said. i hope he will take that into consideration. >> we couldn't have a better guest on than you, sir. thank you, captain wes moore. thank you david corn as always. up next, tracking the tea party. what was really going on in the mall when glenn beck called his troops together. this is real interviews with actual people who weren't under the control of the leader who had to say what they had to say. if you want to know what people thought, stick with us after the commerciustomeommercial and hea have to say. great stuff coming up here. this is hardball only on msnbc. y on all new cars and trucks.
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charlie crist is up with his first television ad in the general election. he wants it to be about the man in the middle. here it is. >> how do we get results for florida? by putting aside our differences and putting people ahead of politics. washington needs to stop all the finger pointing and focus on our common goals of fixing the economy, creating jobs. at the end of the day there's only one party i work for. i'm charlie crist, an independent. and i approve in message. >> crist trails rubio with kendrick meek a distant third. hey what's going on? doing the shipping. man, it would be a lot easier if we didn't have to weigh 'em all. if those boxes are under 70 lbs. you don't have to weigh 'em. with these priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service, if it fits, it ships
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the naacp has teamed up with three liberal media groups to form a website, tea party tracker.org, the site which will monitor racism and other forms of extremism within the movement. they're not completely objective. joining me now is ari rabenhoff of media matters. he's going to be our candid camera reviewer. here's a video you have at the tea party tracker site now. it's a compilation of interviewers at the infamous glenn beck rally held at the nation's capitol at the mall. let's listen to the amazing videos. >> do you know glenn beck said barack obama was a racist? >> i never heard him say he was a racist. i never heard him say that. >> yeah. >> i never heard him be disrespectful to the president. >> glenn beck is not going to
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say that. you're just turning words around. >> you didn't hear when glenn beck referred to obama as a racist? >> you didn't hear when glenn beck referred to president obama as a racist? >> if i heard it i would believe it because he is a bit of a racist. >> i believe with the birther people that i don't even believe he's a legal citizen. >> do you think he's a christian? >> i think he's muslim in heart. >> they want to us take a slap in the face by putting a mosque up there near ground zero. well, how many mosques are in new york right now? there's a bunch of them. why do they need another one? just to slap us in the face? >> i learned all i needed to know about islam on 9/11. >> wow. you saw them some tea partiers denying that glenn beck ever called the president a racist. here's the evidence. >> this president, i think, has exposed himself as a guy over and over and over again who has a deep-seeded hatred for white
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people or the white culture. i don't know what it is. this guy is i believe a racist. >> well, you know, what is it about cognitive dissonance, that we call, it when you don't hear something because you don't want to hear it, are those people bsing saying they don't know that? >> they clearly are not watching. he called barack obama racist. he said his entire agenda was based on one word, reparations. how can you claim that, reparations, i word i don't believe barack obama has uttered. >> what is your reaction of showing these people online of people who smoke freely, not from the podium, the official line, but unofficial line? >> i think there's been a lot of exposure. teapartytrackers, tons of these videos are up on the website at mediamatters.org. this is just a compounding of evidence. there's been signs at rallies
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that i remember. i was out and i spoke to a couple who had a sign that described barack obama as politely put a tribal leader and those signs became so common that teapartytracker.org is just one place that documents is all. >> what about -- did they try when they went into the rally at the capital, we're watching it there on the screen. can d they go around and see where they tried to police it and take all the nazi signs that show up all the time out of camera range and weren't able to keep people's brains out of camera range? >> for weeks leading up to the rally, glenn beck said don't bring signs, bring your children, because he was scared of what the signs would be, and if glenn beck prove one thing people listen to him, but go back to the health care rallies on capitol hill when that bill was passing, some signs were some of the most offensive things i've ever seen, chris. >> what struck me in the series of interviews. i could watch hours of this stuff because it does tell me the truth. i was struck by their almost moony like willingness to cover for him because, in other words,
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they weren't denying what they thought wasn't true. they are denying what might hurt him. that's different. they are like in his regiments, like supporting him blindly. the old rulesy don't need you when i'm wrong, i mean when i'm right. i need you when i'm wrong. he said this and they denied it because they wanted to cover for him. >> glenn beck is a powerful voice. brings out 500,000 people or 78,000 people or whatever he wants to say or whatever the truth is on to the mall, and these people are devoted followers and will do whatever he says. >> where are you going next? >> i think we'll keep÷qsáq&ves
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williams the head of one of the tea party groups made a racist comment and was fired. >> they mention the naacp and if a person says they don't like the naacp, that's a tryinger. >> and these guys, they hate the naacp, and it's pretty sad because the naacp is such an important organization. >> keep working at it, ari. >> thank you. >> we'll right back. i've got some thoughts, by the way, about how this administration can go positive for themselves, bolster up for this election and be much stronger on election day and on the next election day in 2012 if they put their house together bolstered up. we need a shakeup and need some heavyweights to come in. said it before and i want to say it more lucidly when we come back. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum ta tum tum tums
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let me finish tonight with the need for an obama shakeup. i said this on friday. he needs to bring in hillary clinton as defense chief to give his defense department a clear democratic leader, bolster his middle east peace deal which could make this administration, also strengthen, let's admit it, the obama/clinton coalition which is the very heart of this administration. i've said this before. now the tough part. he needs a chief operating officer. he's not an executive, president obama, of experience. he's probably brilliant. he's amazing at values. he's got soiled vision what. he needs is a skilled,
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confident, follow-up man or woman, a person who makes things work, no ifs, ands or buts. a guy who knew just how to kede with the opposition house of representatives which is a very good chance that obama will have to face. it's not a time to promote deputies. it's time to bring in proven executives, big shots. put colin powell back at state. this time he'll be able to follow his instincts and values under a like-minded president. people will say that mike bloomberg or colin powell won't take these jobs. that's what they said about lyndon johnson when jack kennedy offered him the vice presidency. that's what they said about alan alda when jimmy smits offered him secretary of state on "west wing," just kidding, but there comes a time when the country needs to do the right thing. no someone is going to tell me that mike bloomberg wants the party of sarah palin and glenn beck to take over this country. mr. president, you started to push f